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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:58 am    Post subject: Rich Hass, Please Detail *Your* Contributions to HG Reply with quote #1   
Disinformation Toadie for the borg and its paranoid coroprate lawyer, notwithstanding.

Speaking of the self enriching paranoid lawyer, Tim Herr, I think it is time for the membership to be apprised of the total fees paid to this *for profit*
attorney over the years..

Is Mr. Timothy Herr, donating billing hours as a selfless volunteer to the association or is he writting his own check from corporate funds as he continues to entrench, hide and cover-up facts from the paying membership?

What is USHPA Corporation hiding?
Why the paranoid secrecy and why the need for insiders like statist Rich Hass to work so hard defending and spreading disinformation?

Every pilot that cares about honesty and accountability needs to turn the heat on somewhere in the borg. Rich Hass wants to call out people's motivations and actions and he needs his own motivations and actions called out and inspected.

I'm sure that Rich Hass and Tim Herr are not going to answer any questions for my benefit. That doesn't keep me from asking the questions.
The very idea of a non profit organization being so secretive and vicious in their dealings with members is morally repugnant to me. It should be for everyone.

Anyone that wants to know what the USHPA Corporation is covering up and the motivation for such secrecy, need to ask the questions of those with the answers.

Members and ex members need to hold these people's feet to the fire until we get answers. .

The question of secrecy and cover up should be in headlines every day on as many venues as necessary until these questions are answered.
Information is power. Cover up and secrecy signify weakness of position.

War has been declared against the membership.
The borg has circled the wagons with secrecy and disinformation in attempt to destroy an insurgency of truth and accountability.

If we want honesty, accountability and fairness we have to fight for it.

Bob can't do this all by himself.
It is time for a grassroots to crank up the heat for information and accountability. Why is the borg involved in such cover-up?
Members deserve the answers.

In grassroot movements everyone is their own leader..
'Go toward the sound of gunfire and you will know what to do.'
Demand accountability. Be accountable.
The organization is yours.
Don't let a paranoid lawyer and his water boys tell you different

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Rich Hass, Please Detail *Your* Contributions to HG Reply with quote #2   
I just wanted to offer an especially hearty "second" to these comments:

FreeUSHGA wrote:
If we want honesty, accountability and fairness we have to fight for it.

Bob can't do this all by himself.
It is time for a grassroots to crank up the heat for information and accountability.

Members deserve the answers.

In grassroot movements everyone is their own leader..
'Go toward the sound of gunfire and you will know what to do.'
Demand accountability. Be accountable.
The organization is yours.

Very well said Warren. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:10 am    Post subject: Re: Rich Hass, Please Detail *Your* Contributions to HG Reply with quote #3   
bobk wrote:
Very well said Warren.
Ditto

Too many harsh adjectives.......leave them out or tone it down, I know who Rich is, no need to paint something brown that is already brown.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:12 pm    Post subject: If I toned it down any more.. zzzzzzzz Reply with quote #4   
"Disinformation Toadie" ??
Inspired poetic license, my artistic friend.
I thought you would like it.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:39 pm    Post subject: Re: If I toned it down any more.. zzzzzzzz Reply with quote #5   
FreeUSHGA wrote:
I thought you would like it.
Yes, I did like it.
From my perspective, the excess use of descriptive adjectives takes the reader further from the subject, instead of pointing at the subject.
Kind of makes it read like those Watchtower brochures given out by the "J" Witness people.

I would much rather see a little more humor, a little wit (humor with truth), or a little irony to "balance" things out.
Come'on, if he's that bad can't we laugh at him? I like laughing.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:35 pm    Post subject: Re: If I toned it down any more.. zzzzzzzz Reply with quote #6   
It's hard to be funny when the house is on fire.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:24 pm    Post subject: Re: If I toned it down any more.. zzzzzzzz Reply with quote #7   
wild_high_mark wrote:
I would much rather see a little more humor, a little wit (humor with truth), or a little irony to "balance" things out.


You want humor, truth and irony. IS that all? Mr. Green

I can give you truth and irony.
Some think irony humorous.
It's all perspective!

Thanks for yours'
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #8   
I have to say Mark is a master of wit.

I tend to write like an engineer - start to finish and dry as a bone.

Mark's much better than I am at making clear and concise arguments with enough humor to disarm the reader. I could learn a lot from that style.

Of course, sometimes you need "start to finish and dry as a bone". So it's really great when several styles can compliment each other to create a symphony of wit, humor, and detail.

Sometimes my greatest pleasure is writing a long dry explanation and then having someone pop up with a one-liner that ties it all together and makes the point crystal clear.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:12 pm    Post subject: Re: If I toned it down any more.. zzzzzzzz Reply with quote #9   
FreeUSHGA wrote:
Some think irony humorous.
It's all perspective!'
Did you see this?
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This was a consensual money -free flight?
Ooohh, I am NOT done with Danielle.
What was she thinking , taking a ride with Dave? That's like joining the USO just to serve drinks. YOU try telling all those sailors that you can't dance.
Just being the cashier at a glider-port is giving me mixed messages. What was she thinking? She does NOT want to be a part of the orgy that IS hang gliding?

Just warming up my iron!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #10   
So this is the girlfriend of a narc cop that gets a $1 lease on public property that pulls in a million dollars or so annually? This alleged incident occurred 2 years ago? Hmmm..
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #11   
bobk wrote:

I tend to write like an engineer - start to finish and dry as a bone.


It seems to me that your writing style is light years ahead of the reading skills of those opining against you..

I can hardly put two words together sometimes but I read fairly well and it occurs to me that I must be reading some completely different info than that of BJ Herring and others. I would hope to never have BJ on any jury against me. I read and try to follow his line of reasoning and logic and it kinda leaves me speechless.
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